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« on: 31 May, 2008, 06:16:49 pm » |
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Following on from a discussion on the LH site about wearing liveries when that particular household/unit wasn't present at a particular battle i was thinking about Bosworth.
That is really the only battle we do where the Staffords weren't there (at least the main branch -there were the Grafton chaps) & a full Yorkist livery might be too expensive for some, so why not bends?
I was thinking of buying a yard of each colour & knocking up some bends for us - although i do fancy a Yorkist livery coat for the field!
This is something we should look into, especially after my rather excrutiating conversation with a lady MOP at bloodywiddle when she asked me what connection the Staffords had with Glyndwr!
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« Reply #1 on: 31 May, 2008, 08:58:20 pm » |
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Well I've got a Stanley (Thomas Stanleys) / murrey and azure Tab coat, which I keep expecting to catch on fire! and some bends made out of the spare
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« Reply #2 on: 31 May, 2008, 11:56:13 pm » |
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I have a murrey and azure bend and a posh azure and murrey coat to wear over armour. As members of L & M are we not supposed to have Yorkist livery?
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« Reply #3 on: 01 June, 2008, 01:16:39 pm » |
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I believe we are, although asking people tó splash the cash on them may be problematic.
IIRC, we 'should' háve 3 - Bucks, English & Yorkist due to being members of FED/L&M.
Its a cost thing at heart though, how many people want to splurge on a livery that may/will only be used oncé a yéár?
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« Reply #4 on: 01 June, 2008, 01:27:39 pm » |
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It is only the cost of 2m of wool and some linnen to make a tabbard. If I can manage to sew one together then anyone can. The total price is a couple of beers worth.
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« Reply #5 on: 01 June, 2008, 05:41:26 pm » |
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Well I made my own
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« Reply #6 on: 01 June, 2008, 06:26:58 pm » |
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Ellie and I are happy to fork out for bends for York etc of just the cloth and we'll make our own.
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« Reply #7 on: 01 June, 2008, 08:08:44 pm » |
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Í'm debating with myself as tó whéther i should buy the wool & make the bends or be selfish & make a livery tabard with it instead..... A Livery is smarter, but a bend would allow me to show off my hi-viz jack.....  |
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« Reply #8 on: 01 June, 2008, 10:13:08 pm » |
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Gleggy, why are you posting with a funny accent?
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« Reply #9 on: 02 June, 2008, 05:16:41 pm » |
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Because this fecking stupid, useless replacemént laptop decides to translate éverything into gáelic if it condescends to allów you to type at all!  |
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« Reply #10 on: 02 June, 2008, 07:04:07 pm » |
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If someone explains (in one syllable words) what we need I'll get my assistant to make 3 to 4 for us lot (that equates to 8 pints of beer per livery colour...I can be legless in 4...this could get interesting...  ) |
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« Reply #11 on: 02 June, 2008, 07:06:02 pm » |
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Because this fecking stupid, useless replacemént laptop decides to translate éverything into gáelic if it condescends to allów you to type at all! Thats becouse it follows the french rugby team! |
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« Reply #12 on: 02 June, 2008, 07:21:13 pm » |
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You don't "all" need it Rima, as a gunner you can get away without it, but Bends don't need too much wool, it only needs be around 4 to 8" wide going over your shoulder to oppiste hip so say around 2 to 2 1/2 yard long, one of mind, to make the length, is jointed (Ooo, err missis).
As for reason under the FED rules we should have English, I think the reason is to fight the French, as for L&M why only Yorkis (bar) and not having a Lanky, don't know, but if we have Bends to "cover" our own coat, it's a mends of showing which side we're on. As for me having a Standy, well I love the idea of winding up certain old ladies who think Dick 3 was a "god", even if I think (for the time) a good king
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« Reply #13 on: 02 June, 2008, 07:29:03 pm » |
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When we do Bosworth we portray the Staffords of Grafton - Knights of the Body to Richard III.
As those men, we ideally should be in full Yorkist Livery (maybe with a Stafford Knot underneath the Whyte Boar) so a metre/yard of each colour - say Ł5 per metre plus two metres of cheap linen for a liner, say Ł6?
Not too expensive really, it's just the skill involved (Vikki says i have to make this myself!)
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« Reply #14 on: 03 June, 2008, 07:24:57 am » |
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Speaking as someone who has a yorkist anf English livery, I've hardly used either in gthe last 5 years, L&M are now less bothered about all having yorkist livery.
As fot Lancastarian one, if we are doing early period that the Duke of Buckingham is a big support of Henry VII so no problem there.
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